Atheist Church – Jenny McCarthy – 3-21-2010

Posted on June 14th, 2010

atheistcomedian.com CDs, T-Shirts, Funny Jenny McCarthy first announces her son doesn’t have autism after all but then recants and claims she cured him

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  • klfly

    @jaybone23 If nobody cares then nobody cares. Why not put it out there and see? Yes, I got that you were joking but I also got, and your reply confirms it, that there was some truth in your joke as well.
    Anyway, chatting with you hasn’t been half bad. Thanks for the conversation.

  • jaybone23

    @klfly The main reason for not creating my own videos is a lack of quality hardware. I really must upgrade to a better computer, as this one is being held together with the digital version of duct tape, rubber bands, and chewing gum. The camera sucks too, but the current economy has taken its toll on my employment status. A new pair of underwear is a budget killer, much less a new computer. I’m not exactly Brad Pitt either. I look more like a British soccer hooligan.

  • klfly

    @spookym123 What does one even say to this? So vaccines didn’t help get polio and small pox under control? It was just coincidence that their natural flux peaked and fell with the timing they did? The original wheel chairs were barbaric, original dentures as well. Both are good inventions, even in their archaic forms quite welcome and they’ve improve over time. The same for vaccines.

  • klfly

    @jaybone23 I’d rather talk to a British Soccer Hooligan than Brad Pit any day. Good luck with your economic situation.

  • jaybone23

    @kapwns From today’s news: “Jury decides $250 million damages against Novartis”. This was a sex discrimination suit brought by over 5,000 female employees. This company couldn’t get employee relations right, what makes you think they’d do so about anything else? The PRIMARY goal for a big corporation is profit. Anymore, you can’t EXPECT a company to act ethically if doing so hurts the bottom line and they think they can get away with doing otherwise because of weak or NO regulation.

  • jaybone23

    @klfly Well, I’m of the same opinion…assuming, of course, that I’m not a Manchester United fan encountering a Liverpool supporter. If that were the case, there’d probably be no talking at all, but rather only fisticuffs and lager bottles being broken over heads. Remember, however, that this DOES pass for civil debate among football supporters in Britain. It’s a cultural thing.

  • kapwns

    @jaybone23 red herring, this has what to do with the evidence regarding vaccine or drug efficacy?

    so you pretty much make it clear your real beef is with regulation, why didn’t you jus say that to begin with.

  • spookym123

    Both were already on the decline when the vaccines were introduced.

  • klfly

    @spookym123 Wow, that’s looney. There are places where the vaccine was NOT used and guess what, polio is still a problem. Give me a list of kids who were vaccinated and then later go polio. Give me something to support this crazy talk of yours. Until then you’re filed away with the holocaust deniers.

  • spookym123

    @klfly Both were already on the decline when vaccines were introduced. My point in this thread is not about whether or not vaccines are effective or not, but how science is like religion and people will defend it and follow it blindly, without question. I have been in the health industry for 23 years and am amazed at how people accept things so readily without question. Why do you believe vaccines are effective? Most likely from hearing “vaccines are good for us” once as a child. Like a god.

  • spookym123

    @klfly I feel like I’ve entered Fred Phelps’ website.People angrily denying any possible alteration from conventional beliefs. Don’t ask questions! Just believe! There are plenty of sources (look online) questioning the effectiveness of vaccines. But again, that is not my point. It is about peoples’ inability to question widely held beliefs, i.e. fundamentalists.

  • klfly

    @spookym123@spookym123 @spookym123 Ah yes, because we disagree with you on this we’re close minded like Phelp’s. Maybe you’ll call us Nazis next. Please don’t imagine I’m angry, I’m not. This is not religion. We’re not having faith. There is significant proof that vaccine’s protect against illness, backed up by studies and years of application. That is science. That vaccines are not perfect is clear and is not disputed, that they’re the best bet we have is as clear.

  • klfly

    @spookym123 Telling someone to look online to prove YOUR argument is laughable. Find a study from a reliable source, conducted according to sound scientific method and I’ll have a look. Don’t assume we refuse to question because we reached a different conclusion than you. I did question and did much studying before agreeing to have my daughter vaccinated, and I’m so close minded that I’ve asked my doctor to use a different schedule than the one she recommended.

  • spookym123

    Most people believe something they hear, based on trust, and yes, faith. Most people that believe in the efficacy of vaccines because they’ve heard it once, usually as children, that “it is so”. Most people who question vaccines do so after reading or hearing something before asking questions rather than just blind faith or trust as I mentioned above. Where there are flaws there must also be questions and skepticism, not just acceptance as “better than nothing”. It is how we advance.

  • klfly

    @spookym123 Do you have some study, some survey that gives you this authority on what most people think? I hear our politicians constantly talk about what most people think and I don’t trust. I also won’t deign to speak for most people.
    Of course we respond to flaws and work to improve vaccines, along with everything else, but in the meanwhile they ARE better than doing nothing, they are our best option.
    And we are now officially talking in circles around each other.

  • spookym123

    I say “most people” to give the benefit of doubt, rather than simply “people” or “all people”. Because I don’t claim that my point of view is final, that others have the right to be heard and not ridiculed, even Jenny McCarthy.

  • klfly

    @spookym123 Sure, she has the right to be heard, but when did anyone earn the right NOT to be ridiculed?

  • jaybone23

    @kapwns Ummm, well my OBVIOUS point was that, in today’s climate, one can’t trust a big corporation to necessarily do the right thing EVER, including those companies that might produce drugs and vaccines that end up being unsafe. And then you go on to make THE SAME MISTAKE AGAIN and suggest that I said anything specifically about regulation. I’m debating a brick wall over here! You seem to comprehend only about every third or fourth word in a post, and frankly, it’s become tiresome.

  • kapwns

    @jaybone23 hmm so how does one make sure that companies stay in check?
    oh yeah regulation and the fda! so if we want to make sure things are ok, we should make sure regulation and the fda are doing their job, not screaming “big pharma” is not to be trusted!

    no you didn’t say anything about regulation, that’s why i specifically pointed that regulation should be your real problem, not the persecution of paranoia.

    you aren’t debating anything, let alone even understanding what im saying.

  • sprinkle888

    On youtube: (Famous atheists last words before dying). Repent time is running don’t be deceived God is real and all men will stand before the Lord on judgment day.

  • klfly

    @sprinkle888 Yeah, I’ll stand before your God & I & the majority of humanity will be sent to hell because we weren’t as smart as you at understanding the mysteries of the universe. Lucky you to be so much smarter than the atheists, Hindus, Muslims, Bahai, Buddhists, even the other varieties of Christian. Never mind that I’ve been honest & strove to understand the best I could, that I’ve been a good father & husband, strove to be a good citizen. That’s your God? You can have him. I’d rather burn.

  • sprinkle888

    @klfly: Listen carefully I know you don’t know me, but I have to say is very real. Jesus Christ died on the cross that we may live and he is the very key that unlocks heavens gate that mankind may enter. Many unbelievers are wondering why can’t I see what these Christians are talking about? Ask the Lord to open your spiritual eyes that you may see the truth, keep asking and seeking him and you will find him. God bless you and your family; In jesus name amen

  • 71Warrior4Jesus

    Accept Jesus today all before its toooo late

  • klfly

    @71Warrior4Jesus Why is it ever too late? What kind of f’d up God do you worship anyway? It says in the end time every knee shall bend, we’ll all see the truth. Why not just make it obvious now, why the games? So I’ll bend my knee, see the error of my ways and God will say “Sorry, too late, burn forever.” Dude, that’s not cool. I think you might be following the wrong dude. Change sides, today before it’s tooooo late.

  • sccamom

    Only a vaccinated vs never vaccinated study will set you free. It’s coming.

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